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Post by Wrangler on May 15, 2003 11:42:11 GMT -5
Hmmm...that said, I'm not so sure if we're still gonna see some developments on Max Rockatansky not only as a lone survivor/avenger, but as a human being. His agendas have been to rescue, save, be the Messianic avenger. Will it still be his calling in the Fury Road? Or will the scarcity of resources fuel the new and untapped Max? (Madder than before, could you believe it?) And what about post-apocalyptic Australia? Will it have changed for the better since Beyond Thunderdome? Or for the worst? (My God...I just can't wait!)
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Post by Wrangler on May 15, 2003 11:42:11 GMT -5
Hmmm...that said, I'm not so sure if we're still gonna see some developments on Max Rockatansky not only as a lone survivor/avenger, but as a human being. His agendas have been to rescue, save, be the Messianic avenger. Will it still be his calling in the Fury Road? Or will the scarcity of resources fuel the new and untapped Max? (Madder than before, could you believe it?) And what about post-apocalyptic Australia? Will it have changed for the better since Beyond Thunderdome? Or for the worst? (My God...I just can't wait!)
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Post by Wrangler on May 7, 2003 21:36:17 GMT -5
Brian May's the guy who I think did both of Mad Max and Mad Max 2: THe Road Warrior's soundtracks and I once thought that this was the guy from Queen! He did a good job on both movies but I personally liked the soundtrack from Beyond Thunderdome more...and it's not 'cause I'm such a big fan of Tina Turner either! In my opinion, both songs ("One of the Living", "We Don't Need Another Hero") have definitely described the feel of the Mad Max titles.
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Post by Wrangler on May 7, 2003 21:36:17 GMT -5
Brian May's the guy who I think did both of Mad Max and Mad Max 2: THe Road Warrior's soundtracks and I once thought that this was the guy from Queen! He did a good job on both movies but I personally liked the soundtrack from Beyond Thunderdome more...and it's not 'cause I'm such a big fan of Tina Turner either! In my opinion, both songs ("One of the Living", "We Don't Need Another Hero") have definitely described the feel of the Mad Max titles.
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Post by Wrangler on Jun 4, 2003 0:16:46 GMT -5
Aww...this is nuthin' much I guess. I just wanna point out the simple fact that though Max may have indeed gained a reputation as being "Mad" after the murder of his family and best friend, in the premise of Beyond Thunderdome--most of the people alongside Max (friends and fiends alike) are madder than Max can ever be! Heh-heh. The new wave of barbarism--the lewd, crude, shrewd and rude of the future. And you thought Max was mad. Well, mad as in angry perhaps. He sort of exhibited that when he was duped into fighting Blaster and almost made to kill him. I just kinda sensed that when he said "This wasn't part of the deal." I think he was even madder though when Savannah and the others escaped the Crack In The Earth to find Tomorrow-Morrow Land. He was d**n irritated when he was asked to find them. ("Stop the noise!") Oh, and I hope that they take the action to the highways again in Fury Road...I miss the asphalt so much. ;D
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Post by Wrangler on Jun 4, 2003 0:16:46 GMT -5
Aww...this is nuthin' much I guess. I just wanna point out the simple fact that though Max may have indeed gained a reputation as being "Mad" after the murder of his family and best friend, in the premise of Beyond Thunderdome--most of the people alongside Max (friends and fiends alike) are madder than Max can ever be! Heh-heh. The new wave of barbarism--the lewd, crude, shrewd and rude of the future. And you thought Max was mad. Well, mad as in angry perhaps. He sort of exhibited that when he was duped into fighting Blaster and almost made to kill him. I just kinda sensed that when he said "This wasn't part of the deal." I think he was even madder though when Savannah and the others escaped the Crack In The Earth to find Tomorrow-Morrow Land. He was d**n irritated when he was asked to find them. ("Stop the noise!") Oh, and I hope that they take the action to the highways again in Fury Road...I miss the asphalt so much. ;D
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Post by Wrangler on May 29, 2003 12:53:49 GMT -5
Hey thanks for the compliment, Uncle! We may truly be clones of the same descent! Anyway, I’ve read the Ironbar article in the Villains To The Max section in your website (great insights on the subject, by the way) and I absolutely believe that some uncultured genetic strain had transformed his skin into a tough, rawhide-like membrane of some sort. This naturally was caused by an evolutionary shift, as you’ve said. Ironbar’s acquired physical feature has indeed saved him on countless occassions in the past and in particular, when he encountered Max. The unclear thing to me in all of this is whether Ironbar had truly survived that crash or not. From my point of view, it looks as though he may have—considering that he still had the prospect of flipping Max the finger. It looked funny in a way since that gesture may have proposed two things: 1) Ironbar giving up and admitting defeat (by flipping the finger, he may have effectively said that—“Yeah, you got me but don’t think I’m gonna bow down to you just ‘cause you’ve outsmarted me, etc…”) or 2) Ironbar already plotting revenge. By God, you’re right! I guess I wasn’t paying much attention to detail again but I just realized that Ironbar was in fact made the new ruler of the Underworld. To me at that time, Master’s tone was more like making a farce out of the whole situation when he said to Ironbar to fix the problem himself. It’s like saying—“I’m not going to do any work you give me considering I’ve been discharged anyway so why don’t you people do it since you’re so smart etc…” In the case of Ironbar’s attempt to kill Max by committing suicide, I personally have to say that it looked like a suicidal attempt—a final push if you will—to destroy Max once and for all but seemingly, Ironbar may have not given it thought (or he just didn’t care). At that very moment when it was clear they’re gonna play chicken, Ironbar positively gnarled—and yet again, it could’ve meant a number of things. But, whether it was because he was so sure of himself OR the fact that manpower and firepower was at an advantage for Aunty’s troops OR Ironbar just ran out of options and happily decided that suicide was the way to go, I’m not exactly certain. (Which is why this movie is so great—I may have watched it lots of times and I still discover new things about the story all the time.) For whatever reason though, Max still emerged as the winner—and the wiser. Particularly, the common thing about Wez and Ironbar (well, aside from a number of other things) is they’re both fearless (also said in the Villains To The Max section) which has been a major factor when engaging in their pursuits and struggles against any adversary. And even Max found it difficult to fend them off because of it. That barbaric tenacity helped them gain notoriety in the new world and even reach the valuable positions in their respective (wrecking) crews--and that fearlessness proved to be a force to be reckoned with. Hmmm…Wez and Ironbar joining forces against Max… Now, that would have been a real nightmare.
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Post by Wrangler on May 29, 2003 12:53:49 GMT -5
Hey thanks for the compliment, Uncle! We may truly be clones of the same descent! Anyway, I’ve read the Ironbar article in the Villains To The Max section in your website (great insights on the subject, by the way) and I absolutely believe that some uncultured genetic strain had transformed his skin into a tough, rawhide-like membrane of some sort. This naturally was caused by an evolutionary shift, as you’ve said. Ironbar’s acquired physical feature has indeed saved him on countless occassions in the past and in particular, when he encountered Max. The unclear thing to me in all of this is whether Ironbar had truly survived that crash or not. From my point of view, it looks as though he may have—considering that he still had the prospect of flipping Max the finger. It looked funny in a way since that gesture may have proposed two things: 1) Ironbar giving up and admitting defeat (by flipping the finger, he may have effectively said that—“Yeah, you got me but don’t think I’m gonna bow down to you just ‘cause you’ve outsmarted me, etc…”) or 2) Ironbar already plotting revenge. By God, you’re right! I guess I wasn’t paying much attention to detail again but I just realized that Ironbar was in fact made the new ruler of the Underworld. To me at that time, Master’s tone was more like making a farce out of the whole situation when he said to Ironbar to fix the problem himself. It’s like saying—“I’m not going to do any work you give me considering I’ve been discharged anyway so why don’t you people do it since you’re so smart etc…” In the case of Ironbar’s attempt to kill Max by committing suicide, I personally have to say that it looked like a suicidal attempt—a final push if you will—to destroy Max once and for all but seemingly, Ironbar may have not given it thought (or he just didn’t care). At that very moment when it was clear they’re gonna play chicken, Ironbar positively gnarled—and yet again, it could’ve meant a number of things. But, whether it was because he was so sure of himself OR the fact that manpower and firepower was at an advantage for Aunty’s troops OR Ironbar just ran out of options and happily decided that suicide was the way to go, I’m not exactly certain. (Which is why this movie is so great—I may have watched it lots of times and I still discover new things about the story all the time.) For whatever reason though, Max still emerged as the winner—and the wiser. Particularly, the common thing about Wez and Ironbar (well, aside from a number of other things) is they’re both fearless (also said in the Villains To The Max section) which has been a major factor when engaging in their pursuits and struggles against any adversary. And even Max found it difficult to fend them off because of it. That barbaric tenacity helped them gain notoriety in the new world and even reach the valuable positions in their respective (wrecking) crews--and that fearlessness proved to be a force to be reckoned with. Hmmm…Wez and Ironbar joining forces against Max… Now, that would have been a real nightmare.
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Post by Wrangler on May 23, 2003 12:58:03 GMT -5
Yep, I just rummaged through the Beyond Thunderdome events and yes, Ironbar may have made it alive although it would’ve been a long shot if Aunty did even care after the crash. But I did. And it kinda eats at me right now too. Would Max and Ironbar still have to settle their differences after Thunderdome? Why? Well, I’ll give you 3 reasons there might be another Max-Ironbar face-off: 1. Ironbar, though sometimes a little annoying, proved to be one tough S.O.B. He survived everything that Max had him through—let alone him rising from that pig slop…I mean, that’s indestructible for ya! Not distinctly a favorite among Max’s long list of villains (my personal favorite is Bubba Zanetti) but he did proved his worth as being the tenacious boar that he truly is and the fact that he, amongst Max’s adversaries, was perhaps the toughest. That may have been enough for him to survive that wreck. (That is, if he would be able to get out of his vehicle—now that would’ve been a total bummer for Ironbar.) 2. Max may have proven that he’s the better man between him and Ironbar but I still feel that Ironbar has to at least return the favor. I mean, Ironbar’s not going to let him slip like that. Well…wouldn’t he? 3. Beyond Thunderdome granted this personality to Max that he really doesn’t have to kill to save the others and gain whatever he had to gain. He sort of dropped this killing routine a long time ago. His crash against Ironbar’s wasn’t intentionally to kill either and that would’ve been unlikely since Ironbar…somehow made it through…alive. (Well, he did look alive.) This new demeanor of Max might still cost him something— I know I’m not really gaining ground on this theory but at least the chase in Beyond Thunderdome was something to talk about and Ironbar’s role in it was phenomenal. Since then, Ironbar is slowly becoming a tenacious spook for me everytime I watch Beyond Thunderdome—he’s slowly beginning to resemble a phoenix, slowly rising from the ashes…OK--well, a really dirty, rude, loud, imp-like, diminutive phoenix.
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Post by Wrangler on May 23, 2003 12:58:03 GMT -5
Yep, I just rummaged through the Beyond Thunderdome events and yes, Ironbar may have made it alive although it would’ve been a long shot if Aunty did even care after the crash. But I did. And it kinda eats at me right now too. Would Max and Ironbar still have to settle their differences after Thunderdome? Why? Well, I’ll give you 3 reasons there might be another Max-Ironbar face-off: 1. Ironbar, though sometimes a little annoying, proved to be one tough S.O.B. He survived everything that Max had him through—let alone him rising from that pig slop…I mean, that’s indestructible for ya! Not distinctly a favorite among Max’s long list of villains (my personal favorite is Bubba Zanetti) but he did proved his worth as being the tenacious boar that he truly is and the fact that he, amongst Max’s adversaries, was perhaps the toughest. That may have been enough for him to survive that wreck. (That is, if he would be able to get out of his vehicle—now that would’ve been a total bummer for Ironbar.) 2. Max may have proven that he’s the better man between him and Ironbar but I still feel that Ironbar has to at least return the favor. I mean, Ironbar’s not going to let him slip like that. Well…wouldn’t he? 3. Beyond Thunderdome granted this personality to Max that he really doesn’t have to kill to save the others and gain whatever he had to gain. He sort of dropped this killing routine a long time ago. His crash against Ironbar’s wasn’t intentionally to kill either and that would’ve been unlikely since Ironbar…somehow made it through…alive. (Well, he did look alive.) This new demeanor of Max might still cost him something— I know I’m not really gaining ground on this theory but at least the chase in Beyond Thunderdome was something to talk about and Ironbar’s role in it was phenomenal. Since then, Ironbar is slowly becoming a tenacious spook for me everytime I watch Beyond Thunderdome—he’s slowly beginning to resemble a phoenix, slowly rising from the ashes…OK--well, a really dirty, rude, loud, imp-like, diminutive phoenix.
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Post by Wrangler on May 21, 2003 12:08:34 GMT -5
Well, if we could array the hierarchy of command inside Bartertown—maybe Master was the chief engineer and Blackfinger was the chief mechanic. Aunty of course would be the top dog but hey, Bartertown wouldn’t be Bartertown if it weren’y for the engineering genius of Master and—though a lot of people in Bartertown wouldn’t admit it in the least—the mechanical skills of Blackfinger.
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Post by Wrangler on May 21, 2003 12:08:34 GMT -5
Well, if we could array the hierarchy of command inside Bartertown—maybe Master was the chief engineer and Blackfinger was the chief mechanic. Aunty of course would be the top dog but hey, Bartertown wouldn’t be Bartertown if it weren’y for the engineering genius of Master and—though a lot of people in Bartertown wouldn’t admit it in the least—the mechanical skills of Blackfinger.
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Post by Wrangler on May 18, 2003 22:32:05 GMT -5
Hmmm...the nice (or awful, whichever way you prefer) thing about B-movies is that most of the time they don't have much of a storyline to begin with that they would eventually tend to do a rip off of another story. And much of this is just so obvious you'd initially think that these guys are doing it on purpose but again it doesn't really matter (to most people anyway) since the movie almost always bombs out on release anyway. On a fascinating and rather admirable note though, it's rather tempting to know just how many rip-offs a good movie really has. Mad Max has a lot (of course . One particular movie that most recently caught my eye is the movie Lunar Cop (a.k.a. Solar Force) starring Michael Pare. The plot of Lunar Cop is somehow more outrageous than Mad Max since it involves cyborgs and space colonies of some sort. But then, you'd have to look at the hero and see just how strangely similar his attire to Max's is--and the fact that he's protecting this burned-out, post-apocalyptic colony from some evil bikers who also looked eerily familiar. You may wanna see the movie for yourself--I saw this movie on cable and watched long enough just to see how many semblances this movie has with Mad Max. I think it was on Peter Barton's site that I saw this Mad Max rip-off section. This movie may have to be added in the long list. But hey, I'm not complaining. After all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Post by Wrangler on May 18, 2003 22:32:05 GMT -5
Hmmm...the nice (or awful, whichever way you prefer) thing about B-movies is that most of the time they don't have much of a storyline to begin with that they would eventually tend to do a rip off of another story. And much of this is just so obvious you'd initially think that these guys are doing it on purpose but again it doesn't really matter (to most people anyway) since the movie almost always bombs out on release anyway. On a fascinating and rather admirable note though, it's rather tempting to know just how many rip-offs a good movie really has. Mad Max has a lot (of course . One particular movie that most recently caught my eye is the movie Lunar Cop (a.k.a. Solar Force) starring Michael Pare. The plot of Lunar Cop is somehow more outrageous than Mad Max since it involves cyborgs and space colonies of some sort. But then, you'd have to look at the hero and see just how strangely similar his attire to Max's is--and the fact that he's protecting this burned-out, post-apocalyptic colony from some evil bikers who also looked eerily familiar. You may wanna see the movie for yourself--I saw this movie on cable and watched long enough just to see how many semblances this movie has with Mad Max. I think it was on Peter Barton's site that I saw this Mad Max rip-off section. This movie may have to be added in the long list. But hey, I'm not complaining. After all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Post by Wrangler on May 20, 2003 11:25:51 GMT -5
Well, The Matrix pretty much rides on the waves of escapism, where knowledge is power—where being plugged is the true path to the ultimate utopia. But The Matrix’s substance isn’t riding on reality. And what about Mad Max? Well, all I can say is--Mad Max is reality!
The fact that the crux of Mad Max rides on something that truly exists or events that could really happen—doesn’t it make you a little fidgety about the whole thing? Hey, the reality that is Mad Max is a lot closer to reality than The Matrix could ever be—the sudden collapse of our oil reserves, the warring between societies (or tribes), and the rise of mobile, havoc-wreaking, highway gangs. Or maybe even a tyrannical witch like Aunty. Yes, it could all happen. And to me, that’s what makes Mad Max a lot more entertaining.
Oh and I’m pretty sure it was “took” and not “toke”, but it does add a little more ferocity to the whole she-bang.
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