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Post by G€|«|«Ø on Apr 17, 2003 8:50:04 GMT -5
We will begin this thread with a definition of what we all are; creatures:
When considering where we came from, we are not given too many choices. We either believe one of two things; either we evolved, or we were created. If we don't believe either of these things, then we simply do not know where we may have come from.
This discussion will hopefully shed light on this often controversial subject.
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Post by Tbot on Apr 17, 2003 12:58:34 GMT -5
I once heard a rather lovely quote, which said:
"Creationists were created and from them Evolutionists evolved."
You don't want to get me started here. After extensive research,
I have decided that it takes much more faith to believe in evolution than it does in creation.
There's my 12 cents -- inflation being what it is.
Ta,
TBOT
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Post by G€|«|«Ø on Apr 17, 2003 15:50:33 GMT -5
I like that! 
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Post by Uncle Entity on Apr 18, 2003 9:21:55 GMT -5
We have been created. Then we evolve through living. If you don't evolve, you're not really living, but just "tasting" a little bit of it. Frankly. Sometimes, people have been created, but it truly stopped to evolve since childhood, or early maturity. I think spiritual and cultural evolution is the greatest prodigy a man would ever see. Unfortunately, spiritual and cultural evolution is not so "trendy", today. That's why we resemble a bunch of brutal opportunists inferior to animals.  |
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Post by ĊąРťĀ on Apr 18, 2003 13:44:42 GMT -5
I must agree with Unc... Nature was going along just fine until man came along! |
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Post by **Stär§IñMÿEyes** on Apr 21, 2003 13:04:44 GMT -5
I have thought many times on this topic...And the only real thing I am sure of is..............Someone had to create what we evolced from....I dont believe we just appearred...WE have changed in Evolved through the years to go along with the changing times....  |
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Post by Uncle Entity on Apr 21, 2003 18:10:51 GMT -5
You're evolving right now. By reading this topic. By learning a little piece of knowldege. By meditating on a new detail --- never noticed before.
The evolution of the one equals the evolution of many. The evolution of the one DOES the evolution of the many.
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Post by G€|«|«Ø on Apr 21, 2003 22:05:03 GMT -5
Something to take into consideration is what direction that man appears to be evolving in. Would you say that man is evolving into a perfect state, or is man evolving toward destruction?
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Post by Uncle Entity on Apr 22, 2003 14:18:45 GMT -5
Both directions feature a factual, in-deep, catartic evolution. Ev'ry man has to follow his own path, necessarely. The run on the path (call it "fate") is the REAL direction of your specific evolution. Ev'ry man is an essential component of one "mechanics". His role/direction inside that mechanic structure HAS to be specific, and determinate: good or bad, it's a necessary direction inside the mechanics. If one component works, all the system truly works as it had to be.
Ironically, following the path means to be free --- all at the same time. As paradoxal as it could sound.
Hope it's clear.
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Post by G€|«|«Ø on Apr 24, 2003 8:12:47 GMT -5
<<Hope it's clear. >> Um... nope. It's not, lol! but that's okay. It's the effort that counts. 
Does a house construct itself? Can an automobile appear and then improve in design without mechanical skill? No. How much more skill would be necessary with even the simpler forms of life?
Some look to mutations as ways of advancement. In the case of humans, males and females would of had to mutate at the exact same time along the chronological scale of the history of the world.
This would mean within a twenty year period, when the theory of evolution claims that mankind evolved after millions of years of changes. This would mean that as man changed each step of the way, women had to change too, at the exact same time! |
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Post by Uncle Entity on Apr 24, 2003 15:17:30 GMT -5
Really isn't that clear? Impossible! I feel a little bit offended to death here, LOL! ;D
Okay, I has been humiliated. Anyway:
Both directions feature a factual, in-deep, catartic evolution.
Good or bad direction that is, it doesn't matter at all. It's YOUR direction in both senses. Direction can bring to evolution. A deep, inner evolution.
Ev'ry man has to follow his own path, necessarely. The run on the path (call it "fate") is the REAL direction of your specific evolution.
Doom is the direction of your evolution, doom is the ROAD you have to run in order to evolve into someone/something else: the ultimate "self". I'm speaking about your personal, individual doom which fluxes into the generic, collective doom.
Ev'ry man is an essential component of one "mechanics". His role/direction inside that mechanic structure HAS to be specific, and determinate: good or bad, it's a necessary direction inside the mechanics.
It's like a car. You're part of an huge high-powered car. Now, it doesn't matter if you're a clean or a dirty component, either cases you're a factor which truly permits to the car to work!
If one component works, all the system truly works as it had to be.
Ironically, following the path means to be free --- all at the same time. As paradoxal as it could sound.
you're free... because you're free to "run" on the road of your evolution. This evolution is pre-programmed. That's destiny. I said "DESTINY" because THERE is actually a force/energy/consciousness behind our lives. God? maybe.
Was I clear this time?
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Post by G€|«|«Ø on May 2, 2003 11:47:40 GMT -5
Um... yes... that was clear, in a vaseline kinda way.
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Post by Uncle Entity on May 2, 2003 12:31:09 GMT -5
Now i'm pretty satysfied!  Well, is there anything to add?  |
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Post by G€|«|«Ø on May 10, 2003 11:51:29 GMT -5
I like the way the reknowned astronomer Robert Jastrow says it:
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Post by Moebius on Jun 11, 2003 9:48:59 GMT -5
I think another way to ask "do you believe in creation or do you believe in evolution?" is this:
do you believe in God or not?
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