Ironbar in The Fury Road? Why? Well, why Not?

[Wrangler]

Yep, I just rummaged through the Beyond Thunderdome events and yes, Ironbar may have made it alive although it would’ve been a long shot if Aunty did even care after the crash. But I did. And it kinda eats at me right now too. Would Max and Ironbar still have to settle their differences after Thunderdome? Why? Well, I’ll give you 3 reasons there might be another Max-Ironbar face-off:

1. Ironbar, though sometimes a little annoying, proved to be one tough S.O.B. He survived everything that Max had him through—let alone him rising from that pig slop…I mean, that’s indestructible for ya! Not distinctly a favorite among Max’s long list of villains (my personal favorite is Bubba Zanetti) but he did proved his worth as being the tenacious boar that he truly is and the fact that he, amongst Max’s adversaries, was perhaps the toughest. That may have been enough for him to survive that wreck. (That is, if he would be able to get out of his vehicle—now that would’ve been a total bummer for Ironbar.)
2. Max may have proven that he’s the better man between him and Ironbar but I still feel that Ironbar has to at least return the favor. I mean, Ironbar’s not going to let him slip like that. Well…wouldn’t he?
3. Beyond Thunderdome granted this personality to Max that he really doesn’t have to kill to save the others and gain whatever he had to gain. He sort of dropped this killing routine a long time ago. His crash against Ironbar’s wasn’t intentionally to kill either and that would’ve been unlikely since Ironbar…somehow made it through…alive. (Well, he did look alive.) This new demeanor of Max might still cost him something—

I know I’m not really gaining ground on this theory but at least the chase in Beyond Thunderdome was something to talk about and Ironbar’s role in it was phenomenal. Since then, Ironbar is slowly becoming a tenacious spook for me everytime I watch Beyond Thunderdome—he’s slowly beginning to resemble a phoenix, slowly rising from the ashes…OK--well, a really dirty, rude, loud, imp-like, diminutive phoenix.

[Uncle Entity]

That's another great post! Actually, I'm truly suspecting someone cloned my mind and incapsulated the copy inside a new different look-like body, and he just named "the product" WRANGLER ;D

Okay,

IRONBAR BASSEY is easily the toughest one, and my personal fave out of Max's villains.
He was part Aunty Entity's personal bodyguard, part Guardsmen's lieutenent (I called him "Prime Guardsman").
After Master's apparent demise, he would eventually have assumed MORE value than both his basic functions, because Aunty just nomined him new ruler of UNDERWORLD ("You rule Bartertown... fix you!").
Unquestionably, Ironbar was Aunty's principal instrument to build up an outpost like BARTERTOWN. She needed brutal strenght and high fidelity in order to collect more accolytes and make her brand-new law respected at the beginning of survivors's "collective life".

Ironbar was a four-wheels Marauder, coming back to the RW era, but sure as hell he soon learned to live "civilized" because he realized it was the only way to make it at the point in which guzzline supplies were gone for good. He was smart, a rare kind of controlled-rage human machine. That's the main difference with WEZ, you know. Both are beasts, but Wez enjoyed his "animal side" way too much (and this brought him to die in the end) while Ironbar managed to find some social/"humanistically" purpouses in his existence, resulting into a new type of barbarian. He could have outfoxed Wez everywhile it was needed. He got brains, in the first place.

Dear Wrangler, Ironbar retains some sort of cryptical, hideous power. His skin seems to be potentiated to extreme, temperature-proof. His body is very strong, resistent, and probably resilient as well. The pig nuts was hotter than hell, just as example. He can feel tattile sensations, however.
I don't know if the source was genetical (think to Max's reflexes or Blaster's incredible strenght --- I use to call them "Deviants", a sort of mild version of the well-famed "mutants". Due to slight evolutionary shift, of course) or just mystical (his TOTEM --- the japanese mask).
Anyway, at the end, Ironbar managed to re-connect with the mask (which COULD imply his power is everything but lost) and give us his best fu*k you.

There is a rivalry between Max and Ironbar. Both managed to piss off each other in various moments since their first meeting. It was EVEN Ironbar who SEW in Max a potential opponent/danger. When Max entered in Bartertown for the very first time, under the mark "Help Build A Better Tomorrow", you could see Ironbar beginning to follow Max. I think he sensed what Max was.
At a certain, dramatic point, rivalry turned into hate.
I don't know if you understood it, but Bassey commited suicide in order to kill Max. He drove his junkmobile (BIG FOOT) towards Max's (MAXIMUM STOMPER) in what it looks like a suicide act. Unfortunately, Max managed to jump off the vehicle (so I think Ironbar just understimated Max's abilities) and Ironbar finded himself kamikazing against an empty target.

I think maybe Ironbar Bassey survived... and he could return in Max's life as a ghost of the past.

Definitely, my fave villain.

[ROCKATANSKY4073]

Hey man, if IRONBAR can be ressurected for FURY ROAD, then you may as well ressurect WEZ too.
after all, they're both dead.

[Wrangler]

Hey thanks for the compliment, Uncle! We may truly be clones of the same descent!

Anyway, I’ve read the Ironbar article in the Villains To The Max section in your website (great insights on the subject, by the way) and I absolutely believe that some uncultured genetic strain had transformed his skin into a tough, rawhide-like membrane of some sort. This naturally was caused by an evolutionary shift, as you’ve said. Ironbar’s acquired physical feature has indeed saved him on countless occassions in the past and in particular, when he encountered Max.

The unclear thing to me in all of this is whether Ironbar had truly survived that crash or not. From my point of view, it looks as though he may have—considering that he still had the prospect of flipping Max the finger. It looked funny in a way since that gesture may have proposed two things: 1) Ironbar giving up and admitting defeat (by flipping the finger, he may have effectively said that—“Yeah, you got me but don’t think I’m gonna bow down to you just ‘cause you’ve outsmarted me, etc…”) or 2) Ironbar already plotting revenge.

By God, you’re right! I guess I wasn’t paying much attention to detail again but I just realized that Ironbar was in fact made the new ruler of the Underworld. To me at that time, Master’s tone was more like making a farce out of the whole situation when he said to Ironbar to fix the problem himself. It’s like saying—“I’m not going to do any work you give me considering I’ve been discharged anyway so why don’t you people do it since you’re so smart etc…”

In the case of Ironbar’s attempt to kill Max by committing suicide, I personally have to say that it looked like a suicidal attempt—a final push if you will—to destroy Max once and for all but seemingly, Ironbar may have not given it thought (or he just didn’t care). At that very moment when it was clear they’re gonna play chicken, Ironbar positively gnarled—and yet again, it could’ve meant a number of things. But, whether it was because he was so sure of himself OR the fact that manpower and firepower was at an advantage for Aunty’s troops OR Ironbar just ran out of options and happily decided that suicide was the way to go, I’m not exactly certain. (Which is why this movie is so great—I may have watched it lots of times and I still discover new things about the story all the time.) For whatever reason though, Max still emerged as the winner—and the wiser.

Particularly, the common thing about Wez and Ironbar (well, aside from a number of other things) is they’re both fearless (also said in the Villains To The Max section) which has been a major factor when engaging in their pursuits and struggles against any adversary. And even Max found it difficult to fend them off because of it. That barbaric tenacity helped them gain notoriety in the new world and even reach the valuable positions in their respective (wrecking) crews--and that fearlessness proved to be a force to be reckoned with.

Hmmm…Wez and Ironbar joining forces against Max… Now, that would have been a real nightmare.

[Oz]

Wez would never be able to be in Fury road. Maybe a relative wanting revenge but the MM movies never do continuity. I have to admit Iron bar was one tough cookie in BT. Perhaps it was the Geisha mask? I dunno since it was broken maybe ol' max will kill him in fury road.

[ROCKATANSKY4073]

the IOTOWA? of rock and roller?

[Tycho]

Perhaps more disturbing, is "Toadie- The Road Warrior". There I was thinking the roadwarrior referred to Max.

[ROCKATANSKY4073]

Oh i dunno , TOADIE was pretty badarse ;D

[Oz]

Ok I changed it with goose's last quote. Cept' i twisted it around. ;D

[Uncle Entity]

Oz said:

Wez would never be able to be in Fury road. Maybe a relative wanting revenge but the MM movies never do continuity. I have to admit Iron bar was one tough cookie in BT. Perhaps it was the Geisha mask? I dunno since it was broken maybe ol' max will kill him in fury road.

That's a real mystery. I mean, that freakin' scary Geisha mask could have been the source of his power, after all. If it's so, after the big crash, when Ironbar Bassey managed to "touch" and possibly grab the mask one more time... maybe that only gave him more days to live.
And that's pretty scary, you know. I think there is a good chances Ironbar Bassey is still out of there.

[Uncle Entity]

Actually,

Have you noticed that Ironbar Bassey supposedly died or went mortally hit in the face about 8 TIMES (counting the hot pig slop and Bartertown/Underworld's annihilation) and when, at the very end, he gave the middle finger out to us... it could have been his NINETH LIFE?

[MāШMąX]

He's still alive.

What's the story with fury road?

[Uncle Entity]

Maybe they will do it. It's still uncertain...